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A Poll of Sorts

December 2nd 2006 07:48
After having read DuskDevi's accurate attack on the character of Lois Lane I thought I would open up a poll for who everyone thought the coolest female character is in comics.

Now by cool I mean the following:

1.Has to have decent dialogue.

2.Has to show a character that you could get along with in real life.

3.Has to be interesting, power wise or attribute wise (I don't just mean she looks good in her costume).

Personally, I am going to go with Death, from Neil Gaiman's Sandman series. Considerate, confident, sassy and seductive, she is among the best embodiments of death (the best being Terry Pratchett's Death).


In the first conversation we see her in, she uses the words, ginchy, gnarly, peachy keen and supercalifragelisticextrialidocious (okay, I am guessing). She teaches Dream about purpose and responsibility. Her dialogue is poignant where it needs to be, and comradely where it should be.

But perhaps Neil Gaiman put it best with "She gives you meaning. She gives you peace."

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Comment by hewhocutsdown

December 2nd 2006 12:36
Top 5:

Death (as mentioned); best in Death: best in the closing parts of The Sandman
Snow White (Fables) - Theres so much here, but at least read 1001 Nights Of Snowfall, which covers some of Snow Whites earlier history (prior to the Fables series, after the stories which you know).
Renee Montoya (Gotham Central) - Read it. The perverted love affair with Two-Face is worth it alone.
? (Hellblazer); I dont have the comics and dont remember the name; she was the Scottish lass who could actually hold her own with John Constantine. There was eventually an inevitable breakup, but she was by far the best woman in the series.
Zee (DMZ); Matty needs someone like Zee to smack him upside the head. Doing pro bono medical aid in a warzone - now thats super powers.

Comment by DuskDevi

December 2nd 2006 12:47
Hi JZ...

Okay...well first up, hands down, lasso of truth be thrown, swear on Gaea...for me it's Wonder Woman....Princess Diana of Themyscira.

- non judgemental, strong and fierce but gentle and loving and brilliant but humble and beautiful but unaware

- her powers have been gifted to her by her Gods and she was born from clay and blessed in to life.
She is the only Amazon that has the gift of flight. Disregard the winged sandals, these were given to her mother Hippolyta by Hermes when H was WW for a while, when Diana was a Goddess on Olympus.
Diana gave up this hallowed life because she thought the Gods were selfish and she was made to help humankind.
She is super strong, almost as strong as Superman, can breathe underwater, is an Amazon warrior and a princess of peace and very tall and she is just lovely.

- I just love her okay.

Then, in no particular order (and I semi lied on my post....I haven't given away any of these comics that are about them or feature them!)

1. CatWoman (Selena Kyle) - sassy, sensual and great one liners.
Her brain is her power, her wit her whip. She is human but an extraordinary example of what humans are physically capable of. She is an interesting mix of good and bad...I don't normally like the dark side characters but I've always liked her.

2. Huntress (Helena Kyle Wayne) - simply because she is the daughter of BatMan and CatWoman.

3. Jade - Alan Scott's (30s-50s Green Lantern) daughter, has GL powers, was briefly the Earth's GL, looks totally hot in green, is really sweet and unaffected by her sad past.

4. Zatanna - a minor character but sooo cool. She has the power of magic and is considered very very strong and scary because she can erase memory. She is a good hearted person, gentle and willing to help anyone.

and my second most favourite female character...

Starfire - totally hot!
She's really fun and cool but can be dorky and goofy which makes her just lovely. She loves everyone and is always perky and full of life.
She harnesses solar energy and shoots starbolts, is really strong, can fly and you don't want to mess with her.
She's also able to learn a language fluently by just touching or kissing someone...the latter just for fun!...and she doesn't need air to breathe.

As you can see my faves are all DC superheroines but I also love She-Ra and Elektra and Dr Jean Grey...also love Crimson Fox and Black Canary and I really have to stop now!!

Sorry. I haven't really answered your post point.

Bottom line...each of these women have traits and characteristics that I value in my female friends and soulsisters, including my 2 most recent 'gifts'...A.H. and K.L.

Hope you're well JZ my friend...say "hi" to Nata...

Dusk


Comment by Cibbuano

December 3rd 2006 22:03
My GOD, Dusk knows a lot about comics.

I'd have to say:

- Death from Sandman is a great choice, JZ. She's so carefree and creepily friendly that it's fun to read her.

- My first choice would have been Wonder woman. Wow! She doesn't have THAT great dialogue though.

- Catwoman is amazing... so confident and cat-like.

- Poison Ivy has a good time, depending on which comics you read.

- I like that sassy chick from 100 Bullets - I forget her name...

- How about that poison girl from the Japanese comic Ninja Scroll?


Comment by DuskDevi

December 3rd 2006 23:29
gasp...Cibby...wash your mouth out!

Wonder Woman doesn't need great dialogue.
She's Wonder Woman.

Comment by JoshZ

December 4th 2006 10:07
Hey Hewhocutsdown,

I should start actually reading the series you've mentioned. I definetely want to get my own copy of Hellblazer though, and I think it is findable at Borders.

Great to have you here mate.

JZ.

Comment by JoshZ

December 4th 2006 10:13
Hey Dusk,

Wow.

Ummmmm.

What does one say?

Well, most of the characters you mentioned I haven't done alot of reading of. Most of my time has been spent in the X-Men kind of thing, and most of those chicks were very very similar. Storm stood out and Emma Frost pretty well spilled out, but alot of them were too similar for my liking.

Interesting to see that at the moment we have a dead heat. Death and Wonderwoman.

Now what we need is a tie breaker.

JZ

Comment by JoshZ

December 4th 2006 10:17
Hey Cibby,

great to have you on here.

Quite the literary man yourself there. I haven't read the 100 bullets stuff, though it sounds familiar. Might have to look it up or something.

I know the ninja girl of which you speak. I liked Ninja Scroll heaps, though she rarely had great dialogue. I actually based one of the characters in my book on Takuan.

Come back soon sometime.

JZ

Comment by Chantal

December 4th 2006 22:49
I'm all for Catwoman too, she's a pioneer in the sassy female stakes!

Comment by JoshZ

December 5th 2006 11:01
Hey Chantal,

glad you dropped by, hope to see you again soon.

We still need a tie breaker though.

And Dusk, you cannot count yourself.

JZ.

Comment by DuskDevi

December 6th 2006 12:05
Awww come on JZ (doing the Lleyton thing)...why not?

Comment by JoshZ

December 6th 2006 15:10
Reason 47.

Because.

Comment by Nathan P. Mahney

December 9th 2006 08:22
Wow. You've stumped me here.

I read a veritable shitload of comics, but on considering this question it occurs to me that there aren't many female characters that I'm overly fond of. Yes, I like pretty much all of the long-time Marvel women, but it's not the same as the way I like the Thing, or Hawkeye, or Beast. A lot of this probably comes down to the origins of the MU itself - simply put, Stan Lee didn't write that many interesting female characters. It was the men-folk driving the Marvel Age into the future.

That said, I have a few candidates:

Mary Jane Watson - Before the marriage to Spider-Man, she was great. Party-girl exterior, but with hidden depths. And Lee's 60s dialogue for her always cracks me up. After the wedding she sort of became 'Gwen Stacy lite', and hasn't been as much fun.

The Baroness - Larry Hama's G.I. Joe run rawks. Aside from being a hot lady in black leather and spectacles, the Baroness always had some sort of plan going, always someone to betray. And she shot Scarlett right in the head. Alas, she doesn't really qualify for prerequisite 2...

Jean Grey - Specifically before she was resurrected in X-Factor #1. Before that, she had one of the most compelling stories in comics. After that, one of the most annoying.

Comment by JoshZ

December 11th 2006 10:44
Hey Nathan,

Yeah, I guess leather wearing wild women just aren't all they're cracked up to be.

I'm trying right now to see if I really meant that.

Yes.

I agree, far too many of the characters in comics are far too the same. All tight costumes, perfect bodies, and nowhere near enough interestingness. Another pick for me would be Johanna Constantine, distant relative of John Constantine. She only had a very small part, but had the edges of a very interesting lady.


JZ

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